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| Commissioner | 
Date Fri Feb 2 3:32:57 p.m. PT 2007
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| The 4 things to remember when voting: 1. EACH OWNER MUST MAINTAIN A 70% AVERAGE IN LEAGUE VOTING PER YEAR (APR. 1- MAY. 31) OR THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED A BAD OWNER AND CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE LEAGUE IF THERE ISN'T A REASONABLE EXPLANATION FOR THEIR LACK OF EFFORT IN THE LEAGUE 2. ALL MESSAGE BOARDS VOTES WILL BE DISCUSSED AND VOTED ON MINIMUM 1 WEEK TO BE CONSIDERED A VALID VOTE AND ALL OWNERS WILL BE EMAILED THAT A VOTE IS TAKING PLACE - 3. VOTE ON THE MESSAGE BOARD DO NOT REPLY TO EMAIL 4. If you want to change your vote in a thread , post your new answer , DO NOT EDIT YOUR MESSAGE AS YOUR VOTE WILL BE NULL AND VOID THIS IS GOING TO BE A HIGHLY DEBATED TOPIC SO LOOK AT THE OVERALL GOOD OF THE LEAGUE AND NOT YOUR TEAM VOTE 7 SCORING FOR RUSHING ATTEMPTS FOR ALL POSITIONS CURRENT SYSTEM NONE NEW SYSTEM .1 FOR EVERY ATTEMPT (10 ATT = 1PT) | |
| Commissioner |
Date Fri Feb 2 3:37:00 p.m. PT 2007
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| 1. 1. Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB 445.30 1. 1. Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB 478.60 2. 2. Manning, Peyton IND QB 336.75 2. 2. Jackson, Steven STL RB 352.90 3. 3. Jackson, Steven STL RB 320.80 3. 3. Johnson, Larry KCC RB 348.20 4. 4. Brees, Drew NOS QB 312.05 4. 4. Manning, Peyton IND QB 336.75 5. 5. Johnson, Larry KCC RB 309.90 5. 5. Brees, Drew NOS QB 312.05 6. 6. Westbrook, Brian PHI RB 286.35 6. 6. Westbrook, Brian PHI RB 310.25 7. 7. Harrison, Marvin IND WR 281.20 7. 7. Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB (R) 288.45 8. 8. Bulger, Marc STL QB 277.05 8. 8. Gore, Frank SFO RB 285.20 9. 9. Vick, Michael ATL QB 274.55 9. 9. Harrison, Marvin IND WR 281.20 10. 10. Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB (R) 273.05 10. 10. Bulger, Marc STL QB 277.05 11. 11. Gates, Antonio SDC TE 268.80 11. 11. Vick, Michael ATL QB 274.55 12. 12. Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE 259.90 12. 12. Gates, Antonio SDC TE 268.80 13. 13. Owens, Terrell DAL WR 259.30 13. 13. Parker, Willie PIT RB 266.70 14. 14. Wayne, Reggie IND WR 258.00 14. 14. Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE 259.90 15. 15. Driver, Donald GBP WR 257.40 15. 15. Owens, Terrell DAL WR 259.30 16. 16. Palmer, Carson CIN QB 257.35 16. 16. Driver, Donald GBP WR 258.00 17. 17. Gore, Frank SFO RB 257.00 17. 17. Wayne, Reggie IND WR 258.00 18. 18. Johnson, Chad CIN WR 255.10 18. 18. Palmer, Carson CIN QB 257.35 19. 19. Winslow, Kellen CLE TE 250.20 19. 19. Johnson, Chad CIN WR 255.70 20. 20. Holt, Torry STL WR 247.80 20. 20. Winslow, Kellen CLE TE 250.20 21. 21. Johnson, Andre HOU WR 244.30 21. 21. Barber, Tiki NYG RB 248.80 22. 22. Houshmandzadeh, T.J. CIN WR 244.30 22. 22. Holt, Torry STL WR 247.80 23. 23. Heap, Todd BAL TE 242.50 23. 23. Johnson, Andre HOU WR 244.60 24. 24. Brady, Tom NEP QB 240.15 24. 24. Houshmandzadeh, T.J. CIN WR 244.60 25. 25. Walker, Javon DEN WR 237.40 25. 25. Heap, Todd BAL TE 242.50 26. 26. Parker, Willie PIT RB 236.70 26. 26. Brady, Tom NEP QB 240.15 27. 27. Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE 236.60 27. 27. Walker, Javon DEN WR 238.30 28. 28. Kitna, Jon DET QB 235.90 28. 28. Johnson, Rudi CIN RB 238.00 29. 29. Coles, Laveranues NYJ WR 231.90 29. 29. Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE 236.60 30. 30. Evans, Lee BUF WR 231.60 30. 30. Kitna, Jon DET QB 235.90 31. 31. Smith, Steve CAR WR 228.85 31. 31. Bush, Reggie NOS RB (R) 235.40 32. 32. McNabb, Donovan PHI QB 224.90 32. 32. Coles, Laveranues NYJ WR 232.10 33. 33. Taylor, Jason MIA DE 223.00 33. 33. Evans, Lee BUF WR 231.60 34. 34. Ryans, DeMeco HOU LB (R) 222.00 34. 34. Smith, Steve CAR WR 229.55 35. 35. Rivers, Philip SDC QB 221.95 35. 35. McNabb, Donovan PHI QB 224.90 36. 36. Colston, Marques NOS WR (R) 221.80 36. 36. Taylor, Jason MIA DE 223.00 37. 37. Bush, Reggie NOS RB (R) 220.30 37. 37. McAllister, Deuce NOS RB 222.90 38. 38. Grossman, Rex CHI QB 219.50 38. 38. Ryans, DeMeco HOU LB (R) 222.00 39. 39. Favre, Brett GBP QB 218.80 39. 39. Rivers, Philip SDC QB 221.95 40. 40. Williams, Roy DET WR 218.80 40. 40. Colston, Marques NOS WR (R) 221.80 41. 41. Barber, Tiki NYG RB 218.40 41. 41. Grossman, Rex CHI QB 219.50 42. 42. Jackson, Darrell SEA WR 216.60 42. 42. Williams, Roy DET WR 219.00 43. 43. Manning, Eli NYG QB 214.90 43. 43. Favre, Brett GBP QB 218.80 44. 44. Crumpler, Alge ATL TE 213.60 44. 44. Jackson, Darrell SEA WR 216.60 45. 45. Boldin, Anquan ARI WR 213.10 45. 45. Manning, Eli NYG QB 214.90 46. 46. Furrey, Mike DET WR 212.55 46. 46. Addai, Joseph IND RB (R) 214.30 47. 47. Allen, Jared KCC DE 212.00 47. 47. Crumpler, Alge ATL TE 213.60 48. 48. Fletcher-Baker, London BUF LB 212.00 48. 48. Boldin, Anquan ARI WR 213.40 49. 49. Burress, Plaxico NYG WR 211.20 49. 49. Furrey, Mike DET WR 212.55 50. 50. Cooley, Chris WAS TE 210.80 50. 50. Jones, Thomas CHI RB 212.00 51. 51. Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB 209.95 51. 51. Allen, Jared KCC DE 212.00 52. 52. Wilson, Adrian ARI S 209.00 52. 52. Fletcher-Baker, London BUF LB 212.00 53. 53. Kampman, Aaron GBP DE 208.00 53. 53. Burress, Plaxico NYG WR 211.20 54. 54. Briggs, Lance CHI LB 207.50 54. 54. Cooley, Chris WAS TE 210.80 55. 55. Pennington, Chad NYJ QB 206.85 55. 55. Taylor, Chester MIN RB 210.50 56. 56. Hope, Chris TEN S 206.50 56. 56. Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB 209.95 57. 57. Johnson, Rudi CIN RB 205.20 57. 57. Wilson, Adrian ARI S 209.00 58. 58. Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR 204.60 58. 58. Kampman, Aaron GBP DE 208.00 59. 59. McNair, Steve BAL QB 203.55 59. 59. Briggs, Lance CHI LB 207.50 60. 60. Young, Vince TEN QB (R) 203.00 60. 60. Pennington, Chad NYJ QB 206.85 | |
| Father & Son Rule |
Date Fri Feb 2 3:37:16 p.m. PT 2007
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| new system |
| Commissioner |
Date Fri Feb 2 3:44:12 p.m. PT 2007
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| the stats on the left are the current system and the stats on the right is the new system as you can see the rb's that carry the ball lots gained 25 -30 pts (250-300 carries) there are 5 more rb's in the top 60 in the new system the league was created to get away from rb dominated leagues but it was also created to award pts for players who earned them you know have to decide on what the direction on the league will take | |
| Dirty Sanchez's |
Date Fri Feb 2 3:51:17 p.m. PT 2007
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| i am very confused/undecided on this topic when i set this league up i didn't want a normal league that was rb depenedent or have a usual type rookie draft (rb,rb,rb,rb) but i also wanted reward top players at any postion so when i heard owners say that rb's didn't have value i thought it was a good and bad thing but i did want to put to end this topic so i tried to find away that the league could vote on and put this situation to rest and make it fair to owenrs who drafted and traded away players under the current system so this is the fairest solution that i could come up with now it is up to the league on what they want to do because i still don;t have a clue on this subject |
| The Orange Crush |
Date Fri Feb 2 3:51:27 p.m. PT 2007
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| old system, league was founded on RBs not being so valuable, should remain that way since we drafted/traded based upon this premise. |
| Dirty Sanchez's |
Date Fri Feb 2 4:55:00 p.m. PT 2007
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| the thoughts i have are: 1. it hurts teams that have drafted and traded under the current system but by how much? 2. the league was formed with the intent of not making it rb dependent but i also intended to award the top players 3. it makes the middle/bottom tier ( part time backs who return kick/punts) less valauable which i like 4. is the current system bad or does the new system make the league better? i am really conflicted on this on |
| Los Hooligans |
Date Fri Feb 2 5:28:43 p.m. PT 2007
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| Old system. The running back scoring is just fine the way it is. No need to tinker. |
| NJ Freeze |
Date Fri Feb 2 5:38:08 p.m. PT 2007
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| new system |
| The Orange Crush |
Date Fri Feb 2 5:48:01 p.m. PT 2007
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| my view on this is that a RB can actually gain 0.1 point for a negative or no gain......that makes no sense to me. .1 pts for every positive carry i could probably live with, but if a RB carries and gets stuffed at the line of scrimmage, he get value for that? just doesn't make sense, we reward good players, this does not define a good player. Jones-Drew, Thomas Jones, and many others have proven carries don't equate good players. |
| The Manhas Leftover's |
Date Fri Feb 2 6:17:17 p.m. PT 2007
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| The Orange Crush:> Jones-Drew, Thomas Oooooooohhhh, and Bobby's true feelings about MJD come out. I can understand the argument against giving RB's points for rushing attempt, but I still the new system. |
| Cajun Critters |
Date Fri Feb 2 7:20:36 p.m. PT 2007
Edited Fri Feb 2 7:22:44 p.m. PT 2007
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| Keep the old system. The new rule is unbalanced. 20 carries in a game = 2 points+yardage. 1 yard per carry x 20 carries = 2 points + 2 points. With most NFL teams using two RBs during a game, there are only a handfull of teams using a 30 carry/game back. (KC, CIN, BUF, PIT, SEA) It wouldn't be a great unbalance, but unbalanced nontheless. |
| The Orange Crush |
Date Fri Feb 2 7:50:11 p.m. PT 2007
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| The Manhas Leftover's:> The Orange Crush: I'm shocked you would vote for the new system.......I would think with Caddy, Maroney, and Gore you would vote against it  As for Jones Drew, still don't like him long term, but can't deny what he did this year. |
| Cajun Critters |
Date Fri Feb 2 8:45:35 p.m. PT 2007
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| Keep the old system. The new rule is unbalanced. 20 carries in a game = 2 points+yardage. 1 yard per carry x 20 carries = 2 points + 2 points. With most NFL teams using two RBs during a game, there are only a handfull of teams using a 30 carry/game back. (KC, CIN, BUF, PIT, SEA) It wouldn't be a great unbalance, but unbalanced nonetheless. |
| Savages |
Date Sat Feb 3 8:45:57 a.m. PT 2007
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| Yeah, what Critters said.... twice.  New system makes the premium of the RB more a premium. Old system gets my vote. |
| Team England |
Date Sat Feb 3 9:15:00 a.m. PT 2007
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| Old System. |
| Canadian Cream |
Date Sat Feb 3 10:47:39 a.m. PT 2007
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| Interesting concept but I think I like the current system. Bobby's comment about positive yardage gains is intriguing on a larger scale. Should a receiver or TE who gets no yardage really be awareded. Interesting thought and maybe something we could look at next year. |
| Dirty Sanchez's |
Date Sat Feb 3 2:01:49 p.m. PT 2007
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| Canadian Cream:> Interesting concept but I think I like the current i don't think the system allows scoring to be limited by positive or negative yards but i can look into it |
| THE CORPORATION |
Date Sun Feb 4 11:16:04 a.m. PT 2007
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| old system | |
| Sharky's Machine |
Date Mon Feb 5 9:04:55 p.m. PT 2007
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| New system |
| Dirty Sanchez's |
Date Thu Feb 8 1:41:33 p.m. PT 2007
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| old system i don't mind the conecpt but it should have been from the start |
| Commissioner |
Date Thu Feb 8 1:42:21 p.m. PT 2007
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| just need sat to vote so this can get locked this is only open for 1 more day | |
| Commissioner |
Date Sat Feb 10 10:40:48 a.m. PT 2007
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| 8 -4 CURRENT SYSTEM SAT DIDN'T VOTE |