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| *Got Bush ? | 
Date Fri Dec 1 9:26:18 p.m. ET 2006
Edited Fri Dec 1 10:16:42 p.m. ET 2006
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| per my email response to Fish's league wide email... went ahead and posted this here on site.... okay JOE Fish... here it is... you ARE alive... read on, like me you needs a lotta help this weekend though (okay, so i got bored since snowed in today with between 8 inches and a foot of snow here in WHITE NORTH CENTRAL OKLAHOMA and this just might be most snow i have ever had at one time in my short 49 years !!! bored enough that needed something to do.... so analyzed this one....) pretty easy for Blue & White Division champions and 1st & 2nd seeds actually... Blue Division... champ is LETHAL WEAPONS regardless of what happens in the L.W.-Zero game.... Lethal at 8-4, Zero at 7-5...is Lethal wins this game he wins div. outright. if Zero wins it, then both are 8-5, 1st tiebreaker H2H would be a split since L.W. won 1st meeting in wk 7.. so would go to tiebreaker 2a... division record... with zero win, LW would be 4-2 in div. and Zero would be 2-4.. therefore Lethal Weapons has the division won and a 1st round bye in week 14.. congrats L.W. !!! White Division... ConnRat has won the division regardless of what happens this week ... if Fish beats the Rat AND Hoosier beats Punishers... Hoosier & Rat would both be 9-4.. Hoosier & Rat split the H2H games, tiebreaker 2a div. record would go to Rat as he would still be 4-2 in div. with L this week and hoosier would be 3-3 with a W... congrats C.Rat !!! 1st & 2nd seeds...if ConnRat loses and Lethal Weapons wins and BOTH end up 9-4, Lethal Weapons would be 1st seed by virtue of H2H win over ConnRat in week 11... otherwise, a Rat win or Weapons loss puts RAT with 1st seed and Weapons as 2nd seed with byes in week 14...Rats & Weapons have the 1st & 2nd seeds locked up, games this week decides which is 1st & 2nd though, RAT controls his destiny ... Black Div. 3 teams at 5-7.. someone here gotta win the division to advance as warmup fodder in week 14 for one of the BIG GUYS here lol MitchBrowns, Redskins & Bush all at 5-7 with Bush-Redskins going H2H... now this IS interesting... since MitchBrowns beat GotBush BOTH games H2H ... Redskins beat Browns BOTH games H2H... fairly simple now..... if TAILGATERS beats MitchBrowns.. then the winner of Redskins-GotBush is the division winner outright as only team with 6-7 record.... HOWEVER... .if MITCHBROWNS wins against Tailgaters... then M.Browns will be 6-7, and the WINNER of redskins-bush would be 6-7... MitchBrowns would be division winner over bush, redskins would be division winner over MitchBrowns.... REDSKINS controls and wins division with a WIN regardless of what happens in browns-naked tailgaters game !!! only chance for MitchBrowns is to WIN and have Bush beat Redskins... only chance for BUSH is to win and have Naked Tailgaters beat MitchBrowns... (come on you NEKKID party-people, play some FFB this week... GOT BUSH here needs to win AND have some NEKKID HELP ) however, WINNER of the Black Division is 3rd seed and other 2 teams at 5-7 head to toiletsville with Nekkid & Victorious... a FISH loss puts him in T.B. too as does hardeight loss .. now gotta look at Wildcard possibilities to see if the Fish & HardEight teams even have a chance to make W.C. (know the BUSH team doesnt ) WILDCARDS.... HOOSIER is a Wildcard regardless whether wins or loses... Zero with a Win is a wildcard regardless Punishers with a Win is a wildcard regardless... Fish & Hard Eight need HELP !!! must win and have loss by zero and/or punishers to force to tiebreakers... 2 wildcard spots to be decided between Zero 7-5, Punishers 7-5, HardEight 6-6 & Fish 6-6. AND since none of these 4 are playing each other... anything is possible from 2 clear WildCard winners to either 3 or all 4 being tied at 7-6... clearly ZERO & PUNISHERS both at 7-5 control and either OR both with a WIN are wildcards, likewise Fish or HardEight either or both with a loss are OUT and headed to the Toiletbowl... only if Zero and/or Punishers loses AND either Fish or Eight win to force tiebreakers with 7-6 records do we get to tiebreaker scenarios... so all the possible scenarios that i see for those final 2 wildcard spots... 1. if....ZERO & Punishers lose, FISH & Eight win, all 4 tied for 2 wildcard spots.. no clear H2H winner since... against other 3 teams here, each teams Combined record would be Zero would be combined 2-1 (beat punishers & fish, lost to eight) Punishers would be combined 2-1 (beat fish & eight, lost to zero) Fish would be combined 1-2 (beat eight, lost to zero & punishers) Eight would be combined 1-2 (beat zero, lost to fish & punishers) so would go to tiebreaker 3... TOTAL POINTS... which as of end of week 12 has Fish 1110, Punishers 1061, Eight 1036, Zero 1013.... FISH & PUNISHERS would be in lead for 2 wildcards on Total Points unless Eight or Zero explodes big on points in week 13 !!! 2. if Zero WINS then a Wildcard and if Punishers loses, Fish & Eight win, then 3 teams for final wildcard (punishers, fish, eight)... on H2H... Punishers beat fish & eight, would be 2-0 so 8-5 Zero would be W.C. & 7-6 PUNISHERS would be 6th wildcard on H2H over Fish & Eight... 3. if Punishers wins then a wildcard at 8-5 & if Zero loses, AND fish & eight win, then 3 teams of zero, fish & eight at 7-6 for final wildcard....---- zero beat fish, eight beat zero, fish beat eight.... no clear h2h winner as all would be 1-1, so would go to total points... right now FISH leads with 1110, Eight with 1036, Zero with 1013.... 8-5 Punishers & 7-6 Fish would be wildcards... Zero & HardEight would be in toilet bowl as TB 1st/2nd seeds) 4. . if Zero wins, punishers loses, Fish wins & eight loses, then would be between Punishers-Fish for wildcard and Punishers beat Fish in H2H...would be 8-5 zero & 7-6 punishers for final 2 wildcards 5. if Zero wins, punishers loses, eight wins & fish loses, then would be between Punishers-Eight for final wildcard and Punishers beat Eight in H2H... would be 8-5 zero & 7-6 punishers for final 2 wildcards 6. if Punishers wins, Zero loses, Fish wins & eight loses, then would be between Zero & Fish for wildcard and Zero beat Fish in H2H....would be 8-5 punishers & 7-6 Zero would be final 2 wildcards 7. if Punishers wins, Zero loses, Eight wins & Fish loses, then would be between Zero & Eight for final wildcard and Eight beat Zero... would be 8-5 punishers & 7-6 Eight as final 2 wildcards SUMMARY... if Hoosiers wins, he is 4th seed AND since playing punishers.. then with Hoosiers win = Punishers loss, so would automatically have either scenario 1, 2, 4 or 5 ... if hoosiers loses he is still wildcard AND Punishers would also be a wildcard (see scenario 3, 6 or 7)... if Hoosiers loses to Punishers AND Zero wins.... Hoosiers , Punishers & Zero would all be 8-5 tied for the 3 wildcard seeds AND combined record against other 2 would be... Hoosier 1-2...(beat zero, but lost in wk7 to punisher & will have lost to punisher for this scenario in wk 13) Zero 1-1..( beat punisher, lost to hoosier) Punishers 2-1 (beat hoosiers in wk7 & will have beat hoosiers in wk 13 for this scenario, but lost to Zero) NO CLEAR WINNER in H2H... so Tiebreaker would be total points.... currently Hoosier 1197, Punishers 1061, Zero 1013, therefore.. HOOSIERS will be 4th seed, Punishers 5th seed & Zero 6th seed... BUT...if Punishers beats Hoosiers AND Zero loses.... then only 2 teams, punishers & hoosiers tied at 8-5 AND Punishers would be 4th seed & Hoosiers 5th seed by virtue of punishers 2-0 record against Hoosiers... CONNRAT or LETHAL WEAPON are Seeds 1 or 2 regardless.... .winner of black division is 3rd seed... Hoosiers is either 4th seed with a win or with loss and zero win still 4th seed...with loss to punishers then hoosiers would be 5th seed if Zero also loses... Zero with a WIN is either 5th or 6th wildcard Punishers with a win is either 5th or 6th wildcard... but would be 4th seed with win over hoosiers and a zero loss.. punishers only a 6th seed if wins, zero wins and zero outscores punishers by about 49pts this week to overtake in total points... FISH & EIGHT need some major league help in addition to winning their game... Redskins controls his destiny, MitchBrownsRocks needs a win and for GotBush to win GOT BUSH must win and get some NEKKID TAILgaters help !!! but THIS is what we play for... going to week 13... only 4-8 Victorious & 2-10 Nekkid PartyPeople are officially eliminated regardless BUT both of those teams lineups this week does have affect on who makes or misses the playoffs.. victorious against HardEight and Nekkie Partiers against MitchBrownsFanRockers (gooooo you Nekkid partiers) ... 3 teams are locked in (ConnRat, Lethal Weapons & Hoosiers).... 3 teams between other 7 are vying for 3 spots... interestingly .... 3 of us (mitchbrowns, redskins & gotbush aren't affected by the other 4.. and vice versa... Zero, Punishers, Fish & HardEight aren't affected by the 3 of us in the WEAK BLACK division !!!) there you go BROTHER FISH !!! you are ALIVE... and a daunting challenge to say the least.. FIRST you must beat CONNRAT's allstar team... THEN you need scenario 1 or 3 to happen which MUST have a ZERO LOSS and a Hard Eight WIN for you to have a chance.... scenario 1 would make you the 5th seed, scenario 3 would make you the 6th seed... FISH, you must have MINIMUM of THREE games go YOUR way to be 6th seed, four to be 5th seed... Fish beating ConnRat HardEight beating Victorious Lethal beating Zero (for 5th seed would also have to have Victoroius beat Punishers) HARD EIGHT.. you are alive with narrower options than Fish has actually, can only be 6th seed...so also a tough challenge this week, FIRST you must beat Victorious, THEN you need scenario 7 to occur which is Hard Eight to beat Victorious Punishers to beat Hoosiers Lethal Weapons to beat ZERO ConnRat to beat Fish Redskins needs win to be seed 3 MitchBrowns needs to win and have Bush beat Redskins to be seed 3 but i have to have TWO games go my way to make playoffs as 3rd seed... my BUSH team must beat Redskins NEKKID Partiers must beat MitchBrowns there, i think i got it ... brother fish & hardeight Sam... am afraid we will see each other in the TOILET BOWL ... off to get aspirin now that my head aches from this exercise in futility.. well either an aspirin or a beer... LT Got Bush ? |
| *Zero Tolerance |
Date Sun Dec 3 11:32:56 p.m. ET 2006
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| Lee, I read your post about five times to find this scenario and can't find it so let me know if you agree with this... #1 seed Lethal Weapons #2 seed CONN-RAT #3 seed MitchBrowns #4 seed Hoosier Daddy Now, Zero and Punishers were both 7-5 and both have lost. Fish was 6-6 and won so all three now 7-6. The other team in your equation was HardEight and they appear to have lost, knocking them out of the tiebreaker were none have a definitive advantage over the others. However, Zero defeated BOTH Punishers and Fish, making them the #5 seed. Should come down to total points then between Punishers and Fish for #6 since they split with each other. Am I seeing that right? Bottom line if I get in? I'll get my ass kicked by Hoosier Daddy! 
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| *Got Bush ? |
Date Mon Dec 4 12:33:59 a.m. ET 2006
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Kirk, i re-read it couple times and i totally missed the scenario that materialized  not sure how i missed that one... i thought it was as crystal clear as mud !!! you are correct that Lethal Weapons is #1 seed & Conn-Rat is #2 seed. most likely Mitch has edge on 3rd seed but that division not completely over yet depending on tomorrow nights outcome. Hoosier's is first wildcard with 9-4 record and will be the 4th seed. THEN Zero Tolerance, Fish & Punishers all are going to end up 7-6 in a 3-way tie for final 2 wildcard spots. RULE 2 has the language that the BOD adopted following the Kapp year 1 fiasco... 2. Division statistics (2a,4a) are used to resolve division ties only. Playoff seedings WILL NOT consider these values. With playoff seedings, once the division winners have been seeded, all other teams will be seeded based on overall record, head-to-head and then total points scored. In the event of a tie involving three or more teams, head-to-head can only be used as the tiebreaker if one team has a definitive advantage over the others (i.e. Team A defeated both Team B and Team C, therefore they earn the higher seed based on head-to-head.) If no definitive advantage can be derived for any one team (teams split season series, some teams involved in the tie did not play), the tiebreaker will automatically be decided using total points scored. first tiebreaker is H2H. Zero (2-0) beat Fish in week 5 & beat Punishers in week 11. Fish (1-2) beat Punishers in week 4, lost to Zero in week 5, lost to Punishers in week 12. Punishers (1-2) beat Fish in week 12, lost to Fish in week 4, lost to Zero in week 11. PER the rules, Zero has the DEFINITIVE ADVANTAGE over both Fish & Punishers since beat both, therefore ZERO TOLERANCE is in as wildcard and would be 5th wildcard. that leaves Fish and Punishers tied for the final wildcard spot. as noted above, since Fish and Punishers split their two games, H2H can't be used and since this is for wildcard and not division, can't use 2a division record. goes to Total Points for tiebreaker. Fish through week 12 has 1,110.95 pts. PLUS wk 13 of 122.70 pts & team is finished. Total of 1,233.65 Punishers through week 12 has 1,061.55 pts. PLUS wk 13 of 75.20 pts & team is finished. Total of 1,136.75 pts. therefore FISH is the final wildcard & 6th seed. 1. Lethal Weapons 2. Conn Rat 3. TBD .... (see below) 4. Hoosiers Daddy 5. Zero Tolerance 6. FastFish Quik-Strike *** 3rd seed will be winner of Black Division which i addressed in the original scenario. right now both games involving all 4 of the Black Div. teams aren't finished, close enough with players going for all 4 teams that anything can still happen (wishful thinking my part ? lol) BrownsRockNC leads Naked Tailgaters by 13.90. Naked has SteveSmith & Browns has ReggieBrown to go. GotBush leads Redskins Renegades by 35.80. Bush has either Keyshawn or can put Stalworth in, Redskins has Westbrook & Kasay to go if both those leads hold up, then Mitch Browns would be div. winner & 3rd seed. if Redskins with Westbrook & Kasay can overcome that near 36pt deficit plus keyshawn, then Redskins would win. however, if Bush lead holds up AND Steve Smith has monster night outscoring reggiebrown by 13.90 then Bush would win division. what happens in those games and subsequent Black Division winner will NOT have any affect though on other 5 seedings... SORRY i missed that scenario on the wildcards, especially since was the one that occurred
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| FastFish Quik-Strike |
Date Mon Dec 4 4:57:12 p.m. ET 2006
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| holy smoke...what a miracle for da QUICK-STRIKE team...I feel like the GATORS  of course da gators will get put on the grill and served up fully cooked with a side of cole slaw by #1 all world Ohio State Buckeroos... but I will get to play some WAC Division Champ with a losing record makin' my #6 seed a highly advantageous spot to be in. now if the G-MEN will not implode as a team after their loss to Dallas and eli-plax-shock continue to play catch while da bears keep winning with defense and Ladell Betts keeps making folks forget Portis and Willie Parker will get his head outta his ass...why if those things happen and Bill Clinton quits huntin' for some strange and Michael Jackson is selected as the new boss of the Cub Scouts of America, I'LL BE THE NEW CHAMP HERE !!!! |
| *Got Bush ? |
Date Tue Dec 5 4:46:10 p.m. ET 2006
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| and congrats MITCHEY.. i did my part against the Redskins.. if those Nekkid PartyPeeps woulda helped us out, you would be OUT lol j/k now the BAD NEWS MITCH... with Div. re-alignment next year, the '07 MitchBrownsWillGetRocked in same division with ConnRat, Lethal Weapons & HoosiersDaddy
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| FastFish Quik-Strike |
Date Tue Dec 5 4:59:50 p.m. ET 2006
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| no kidding..Quik Strike went 3-3 against those guys and feel like that deserves some kinda award by itself. Hey KATS, are you sure I get outta this division no matter what? ok Mitch congrats..ya won the WAC with a 6-7...the party is over. |
| *Got Bush ? |
Date Tue Dec 5 6:00:48 p.m. ET 2006
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| you are OUT of the 'power' division next year !!! Kirk's re-alignment puts the 3 division winners PLUS the #4 seed (top wildcard) into the white division for the following year. the worst 4 teams record-wise go into the black division (these are also the 3rd/4th/5th/6th seeds in TOILET BOWL competition) and the remaining 4 teams, the 5th/6th seeds in playoffs plus the two toiletbowl teams that are seeded 1st & 2nd in TOILET BOWL end up in the Blue Division.. least am pretty darn sure that is correct.... BUT remember, i missed the one scenario for playoff possibilities altogether so WHAT DO I KNOW
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| FastFish Quik-Strike |
Date Tue Dec 5 7:23:54 p.m. ET 2006
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| YES!!! may the gods make it so...escaping the POWER division is like gaining 2/3 wins before 2007 even starts
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| *BrownsROCK |
Date Wed Dec 6 7:47:55 a.m. ET 2006
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| Thanks for the kudos gents......Ain't backin' down or out !!! Comin' at 'em with both barrels next year......You can take that to the bank !!!!!!!!!! Now it's time to go kick some ass !!!!!!!!!!!! 
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