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Topic The Touch of Class League Message Board / A Point In Every Direction..... (114 hits)

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*Dogboyz of A-Town Date Sat Dec 17 9:20:29 a.m. ET 2005
....is the same as no point at all.

The way that the waiver wire is set up for this league determines the balance of power.

It's impossible for any of the lesser's to acquire talent with the restricted wire.....especially when it shuts down after week #14. 

Which means that it's a stupid league.

Adios....amigos.

Find some other sucker to feed you $.
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Commissioner Date Sat Dec 17 11:38:46 a.m. ET 2005
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Why didn't you just say "I'm taking my ball and going home!!"

I will assume control of this franchise until it can be sold. If it can't be sold, I will purchase it and play in this league in '06.

Thanks and good luck to all!
Kirk
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*Raider Boyz Date Sat Dec 17 2:18:24 p.m. ET 2005
Can we make sure the next owner is at least an adult, or has a signed permission slip from his mommy? Or at the very least... stays on his medication for the entire season.
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*King of the Hill Date Sat Dec 17 2:19:41 p.m. ET 2005
Ahhhh, we will all miss the non sensical postings....:-D
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*King of the Hill Date Sat Dec 17 2:23:27 p.m. ET 2005
I just saw what he did with the waivers...too funny! Thank god he's gone
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Commissioner Date Sun Dec 18 9:36:19 a.m. ET 2005
I'm still not sure what he's talking about in this email to Mark. Can anyone explain??

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Tyson" <northsideco@lakemac.net>
To: "Leuchte, Mark OS1" <MLeuchte@cgcescanaba.uscg.mil>
Cc: "Kirk Pavelich" <commish@glffl.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: The Touch of Class League Waivers 1.2 Touch of Class

> Mark, right...it is.
>
> Unfortunately, I'm not a keeper league participant for next year....at least
> not this league.
>
> The league's waiver process is so restrictive that a lower rated team has no
> way to acquire talent.....and the advantage always will fall to the best
> teams.  Just check out the rosters of the top team's....it's impossible to
> compete....it's an unbalanced field and those in power would be foolish to
> vote for change.
>
> Reuben Droughns and Sam Gado occure once a year and when 12 guys are
> restlessly combing the waiver wire, using the same information, it's
> impossible to acquire a RB in a RB league cause no ones gonna trade a good
> RB.  LB's.....sure, you can get a great breakout LB by paying attention as
> DEF players are more available....the hard core information awards Tatupu
> follower's.
>
> I'll never join a league again as a filler....it's impossible to win, let
> alone compete at a .500 rate, without a balanced and wide open waiver
> process.
>
> I've suggested league formats, new and exciting ways of doing business, to
> the owner, Kirk, who seems like a good enough guy....he's never replied,
> never taken the hint to try to change, just collects his money and keeps
> plowing forward.
>
> Maybe now he'll pay attention....but, I doubt it.  He'll just recruit some
> other poor fool who'll stumble blindly into this restrictive format and
> maybe even try to become a beacon for change.
>
> Good luck to that guy...it's a waste of money...not time....just money.
> Come to think of it, it's a waste of good creative energy, too.
>
> You can lead a horse to water.......
>
> Best,
>
> Buck.
>
> cc: The Commish
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leuchte, Mark OS1" <MLeuchte@cgcescanaba.uscg.mil>
> To: "'*Desert MagicToads'" <northsideco@lakemac.net>; "'*Playmakers 3'"
> <slmribs@hotmail.com>; "'*Fall River Sharks'" <m_leuchte1975@yahoo.com>;
> "'*The Brown Dog'" <JALLISON@arinc.com>; "'*The Brown Dog'"
> <jasonallison@verizon.net>; "'*The Intimidators'"
> <pratt05419@earthlink.net>; "'*The Intimidators'" <prattbrp4@aol.com>;
> "'*The Intimidators'" <scott.m.pratt@us.army.mil>; "'*SteamRollers'"
> <sbradshaw@mchsi.com>; "'The Touch of Class League'" <commish@glffl.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: RE: The Touch of Class League Waivers
>
>
>> Why were these players dropped? This is a Keeper league, right?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: *Desert MagicToads (mailto:northsideco@lakemac.net)
>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:15 AM
>> To: *Playmakers 3; *Fall River Sharks; *Fall River Sharks; *The Brown
>> Dog; *The Brown Dog; *Desert MagicToads; *The Intimidators; *The
>> Intimidators; *The Intimidators; *SteamRollers; The Touch of Class
>> League
>> Subject: The Touch of Class League Waivers
>>
>>
>>
>> *Desert MagicToads dropped: Dungy, Tony IND Coach
>> and dropped: Reid, Andy PHI Coach
>> and dropped: McNair, Steve TEN QB
>> and dropped: Plummer, Jake DEN QB
>> and dropped: Volek, Billy TEN QB
>> and dropped: Barlow, Kevan SFO RB
>> and dropped: Parker, Willie PIT RB
>> and dropped: Pearman, Alvin JAC RB
>> and dropped: Morency, Vernand HOU RB
>> and dropped: Houston, Cedric NYJ RB
>> and dropped: Holt, Torry STL WR
>> and dropped: Smith, Jimmy JAC WR
>> and dropped: Williams, Mike DET WR
>> and dropped: Mathis, Jerome HOU WR
>> and dropped: Pollard, Marcus DET TE
>> and dropped: Cooley, Chris WAS TE
>> and dropped: Lindell, Rian BUF PK
>> and dropped: Hanson, Chris JAC PN
>> and dropped: Roye, Orpheus CLE DT
>> and dropped: Allen, Jared KCC DE
>> and dropped: Vilma, Jonathan NYJ LB
>> and dropped: Briggs, Lance CHI LB
>> and dropped: Quarles, Shelton TBB LB
>> and dropped: Tatupu, Lofa SEA LB
>> and dropped: Clements, Nate BUF CB
>> and dropped: Taylor, Ike PIT CB
>> and dropped: Williams, Darrent DEN CB
>> and dropped: Vikings, Minnesota MIN ST
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*Raider Boyz Date Sun Dec 18 3:36:45 p.m. ET 2005
Sounds like hes bitching about the lack of change.. problem is the league wanted no changes THIS year, only he wanted things to happen this year. Droughns was picked up last year by Paul when he was near the top of the waiver wire, bottom of the heap in the league. That sounds like it worked well... Not sure when Gado was picked up, but again it was a team either at the bottom or someone lucked out and got him in the middle of the pack. His waiver complaint doesn't hold much merit... unless he wants a free and open waiver system which favors those who vulture more than anything. I doubt anyone will go for that, though the extension to 4 picks seems to have legs.

I discount any complaints about trades since its up to the person wanting to make a trade to make it worthwhile.

The only thing he mentioned that I agree with slightly is the difficulty in bringing a team up to snuff taking it over. If I recall, he made some trades in the draft.. thats one of the key areas to improve a team and he didn't do too well.

What I find ironic is that the big hub--bub this year was his willie parker manuever which worked for a week, but didn't pan out as parker ended up falling off the map for several weeks.

Bottom line from my view point is that this is just whinning... if he wanted to quit because his team sucked and he didn't want to waste money on it, fine. But to bitch about the league rules etc when everyone knows changes are going to be made in the off-season is just silly.
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*Raider Boyz Date Sun Dec 18 9:54:19 p.m. ET 2005
Also.. I find this comment a bit strange coming from him..

> I've suggested league formats, new and exciting ways of doing business, to
> the owner, Kirk, who seems like a good enough guy....he's never replied,
> never taken the hint to try to change, just collects his money and keeps
> plowing forward

He has made some suggestions, but usually they were so vague and confusing it was a waste of time to read them. He was also the one who accused others have bashing you, I find it a bit funny to see him doing it now when no one else had done it. Pot calling the kettle black....

Anyway... that's life in the FF world.
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*Marauders Date Mon Dec 19 12:04:03 a.m. ET 2005
I picked up Gado, when I was stumbling, bumbling and fumbling in the bottom of the pack and when GB's every running back was getting injured. I think picked him up when Fisher was suppose to be the starting RB when Davenport went down for the season. I was just looking for a running back since Holmes got injured and Jones was ineffective this year.

Good riddance to him - he was always whining, whining, whining.....................
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*King of the Hill Date Mon Dec 19 12:45:10 p.m. ET 2005
Well I for one usually finished ahead of him in the waiver wire race, so maybe he was pissed that I kept getting all the players he wanted... :-)
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*Red Mile Flames Date Tue Dec 20 7:36:53 p.m. ET 2005
So when are we going to start figuring out how/when/what changes are going to be made?

3 or 4 rounds of waivers is good
Wednesday night and Wednesday Night only is good
Expanding the roster 2-3 spots is good
IR is BAD!!!!!

I'll warn you all now that I'm going to be very noisy and opinionated about the IR thing.  I'm very against it.  I think it is unnecessary if we are going to be expanding the roster size by 2 or 3.  I think it will only create more possibilities for disagreements.  I'm not saying it will create more disagreements, but it makes the possibility a lot more likely.  Expand the rosters.  I think we need to abide by the KISS(Keep It Simple Stupid) rule.  By making so many options available to everyone there is only going to be more ways to manipulate the rules and take advantage of certain scenarios.  Less options means less problems...
But hey, I'm just one owner...
Jeremy Johnson Red Mile Flames
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*Raider Boyz Date Tue Dec 20 9:49:00 p.m. ET 2005
First question... vote via the polls, if you haven't already.. changes will take place after the season has ended. Kirk will need to decide exactly when, I imagine he is very busy right now.

Nothing wrong with stating your opinion or being against a specific change.. Just be proactive and polite ;-)

From the looks of the voting so far, I think you can rest easy that the IR will not come to pass at this time.

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